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Letter: No Pot Shops in Holliston

With the passage of question 3 in the November election, Holliston resident Marty Lamb is concerned about easy access to marijuana.

Dear Editor,

I am writing to express my concern about the recently passed ballot question on marijuana.  While I understand the need for people with medical ailments to use the substance, I am concerned about a pot shop opening in our community. 

In California, where a similar law passed, there are major problems within the communities that host the pot shops that sell the substance.  That’s why the district attorneys opposed the ballot question last year. 

I think Holliston should consider banning these pot shops from our community.  We don’t want our children having easy access to the drug.

Marty Lamb

Patrick Waterman February 06, 2013 at 11:11 AM
How exactly do they have easy access to this so called "drug?" Not just anybody can walk in and buy pot, and certainly not children. This has been a looooooong time coming and everybody should seriously just accept it because it's going to happen. Marijuana is helpful in more ways than it is bad. Anybody who thinks otherwise should watch the movie The Union.
Michelle Tate February 06, 2013 at 12:54 PM
Dear Mr. Waterman, The definition of a drug according to Wikipedia is pasted below my reply. Marijuana is a drug. I would be surprised if parents of young children were not concerned by a pot shop opening in town, and also concerned by your attitude that everyone should just "accept it because it's going to happen." If Marijuana is allowed to be sold in Holliston, will there be designated smoking areas, as there are for cigarettes? What about second hand smoke from pot? Perhaps there is lots of support for this due to the possible tax revenue that will be generated. I am not hearing any opposition from our elected officials. It's also interesting that most of the mass murders that have occurred in recent years were committed by people on "drugs" or with serious psychological problems. It's our job as adults to protect our children and provide a safe community where they can grow up and get a chance to reach their potential. I'm glad Mr. Lamb brought up this issue. Hopefully we can figure out a safe solution for everyone. Drug - A drug is a substance which may have medicinal, intoxicating, performance enhancing or other effects when taken or put into a human body or the body of another animal and is not considered a food or exclusively a food. (The definition continues on Wikipedia).
SJohnson February 06, 2013 at 01:14 PM
This is a serious issue. 18 year olds are considered adults, however, there are 18 year olds still in high school. Where are our Selectmen and Planning Board on this issue? This is a discussion our town needs to have.
Iron Mike February 06, 2013 at 03:15 PM
There is an ugly secret lurking just below the surface in many of our towns: grownups – aka adult parents of minor children – are using pot openly in their homes. Their kids know it. So the pot-using voters spoke: they want 'medical marijuana' available legally – everywhere. And now towns get to decide if they want to 'go with the blow' – or stand up for raising healthy kids with values and self-respect. Think about it – what self-respecting adults want to see their 18-yr old kids start on a life of booze, marijuana or hard drugs? Well, despite all the denials in the world, marijuana IS a GATEWAY DRUG! NO, it's not 'harmless'. A New Zealand study which followed over 1000 teenagers for 20+ years found significant addiction and significant loss of IQ. Yes, pot DOES make you dumber! And it works best in teenagers and young adults! Marty, you're spot on, the town DOES need to have this conversation.
Lisa Keefe February 06, 2013 at 03:19 PM
Lamb raises an excellent point. Kids gain access to this all too often, and it's detrimental. This is an important matter that people need to focus their attention on. We should be protecting the children. In fact, Westborough has a zoning bylaw pending. That's reported today at this link. http://westborough.patch.com/articles/medical-marijuana
Bruce Gilkison February 06, 2013 at 03:28 PM
Do you really think buying weed is like going into a "store" and buying what you want then lighting up in a designated area in the "stores" parking lot ? It is not a retail store for any and all to purchase what they want. The law is for medical use.
Don Folkes February 06, 2013 at 03:52 PM
That's how the law was originally desinged in CA. People ended up setting up pot shops which lead to major declines in neighborhoods. Even the pot was only supposed to be available for medical. It ended up in the hands of kids. The DAs in MA opposed the bill. There are other communities banning the shops. Holliston needs to protect our children. There has already been problems with children selling brownies with pot in it. We don't want the situation to get worse.
Don Folkes February 06, 2013 at 03:57 PM
I have a niece in Holliston with young children, and as parents, she and her husband are very concerned.
HollistonGuy February 06, 2013 at 08:18 PM
A Pot Shop already exists in Holliston. It's called Holliston High School.
Patrick Waterman February 06, 2013 at 10:31 PM
Wow here we go. Marijuana by definition is a drug. Marijuana was outlawed in the first place because it "made black people look at our white woman." If Holliston allowed "pot shops" nobody would be outside of it smoking. You don't (normally) see someone buy a 12 pack in a liquor store, get out to their car, crack one open, chug it down, and throw the can out the window. Marijuana still isn't allowed in public. Obviously there will be people who are idiots that may do it in public. But everybody ignores the hobo with a paper bag over his bottle just sippin on the street corner. If you're concerned about "pot shops" maybe you should be concerned about any and all bars in town? Technically, anybody who drives out of there has been drinking correct? I don't have to go into specifics about drinking and driving vs. people driving on marijuana, do I? This is ridiculous. Like I said, its HAPPENING whether there is going to be one in holliston or not. There will be one in a neighboring town, Framingham, Medway, Millis, etc. Everybody should read up on the facts of why marijuana was outlawed in the first place. Like, for example, the paper industry fought to have it outlawed because hemp paper is stronger and cheaper.
Michelle Tate February 07, 2013 at 07:58 PM
Mr. Gilkison, Re: your query, I don't know what to think about how medicinal pot is going to be distributed, having no prior experience with this situation. However I do think that this issue needs addressing. Are people going to be restricted to designated publis areas to light up when they medically need it, or will they have to confine themselves to a private home or hospital setting? If not, then second hand smoke is a serious consideration. Although pot may be medically necessary for some, what worries me is a possible attitude shift, which seems apparent in Mr. Waterman's earlier comment, that pot is harmless and should be embraced publicly. All drugs should be used with caution and consideration of any effect: good and bad.
Michelle Tate February 07, 2013 at 08:03 PM
Mr. Waterman, Interesting points, especially regarding liquor. Considering drunk driving and all of the other effects of alcohol abuse, I hope our communities are wise enough to set up a system for medical pot use that will also stem the tide of abuse that may occur.
Bruce Gilkison February 07, 2013 at 08:17 PM
I do not know how the new law reads but I would suspect use would be restricted to ones private home or residence,availability would be by medical prescription only.
sharon lee scott February 09, 2013 at 11:40 PM
I use to live in Holliston, when I lived there I was about 12yrs. Was born and raised there, we moved when I was thirteen. I am now 54 yrs old. One reason my mom was happy to leave was because of drug use in the schools. So if it was back then, it probably is now. I would not want a pot shop in my community where I live now in VA. And would not want one any where I lived. Yes, it is going to happen, but that doesn't mean you can't ask questions, plan for it and set up laws to regulate it in your communities, so it does not get out of hand and keep the kids safe. Bravo to those questioning this now before it happens. You are not putting the cart before the horse!
Chris Gagen February 12, 2013 at 08:47 PM
Dear Marty, don't be an idiot. First off this is not California! I have worked in that industry and there is no way geographically, that the mushroom effect of dispensaries that happened in LA county could ever happen here. Secondly, unless those "children" you speak of have a medical marijuana card, they have no access . You would probably not even notice it was there.. It's not like a liquor store with signs and neon. So do a little research about the industry and about the benefits for real patients prior to shooting down the idea. And IronMike... You're a clown! Put down the right wing anti-everything manual and do some actual research.
Iron Mike February 12, 2013 at 09:03 PM
Well Mister Gagen, you made my research quite easy. You admit to have worked in the 'pot industry' in California – and imply that makes you somehow more expert than us locals? I'd say you profited off California's drug-addicted masses. Rest assured I'll avoid your diner. I have no objection to actual medical marijuana. So how come CVS and Walgreens aren't going to be selling it? We all know the drug using sub-culture of this state voted for 'medical marijuana' because they knew it would make their weed cheaper and more available, - and damn the consequences. My major personal objection to marijuana is that it stinks, and that stink clings to the users, just as tobacco and alcohol stink up their users. Nothing like standing in a grocery line behind a pot user. Stomach turning.
Patrick Waterman February 16, 2013 at 12:27 PM
"Stomach turning" hahaha wow..
Bruce Gilkison February 16, 2013 at 04:38 PM
this is 2013 is it not ? are that many people living with blinders on?
Ellen Piontek February 21, 2013 at 05:10 AM
I don't recall having this conversation when a gun shop quietly came in to town. I think all conversations about controversial changes in town should be discussed publicly.
Iron Mike February 21, 2013 at 11:54 AM
Law-abiding people buy guns for self-protection... Users buy pot for self-destruction.... Responsible gun owners instruct their young in gun safety... Irresponsible pot smokers use it in front of their kids,...often even introducing it to their kids... You can legally carry a loaded gun as you drive... You cannot drive safely after using pot... A gun won't lower your IQ... Pot will....
Darlene Hayes February 22, 2013 at 02:58 PM
Iron Mike, You live in Acton, not Holliston, Mr Lamb's editorial was directed at his community in Holliston this will be addressed at a local level. Maybe the potential shop should be looking to open in Acton then your input could make a difference.
Iron Mike February 22, 2013 at 03:17 PM
Here's the thing Darlene... I'm a US Citizen and a resident of Massachusetts. My right of free speech covers the globe. When liberals do stupid and whimsical things – like electing Obama and legalizing pot – it affects people everywhere. A kid high on pot obtained in a Holliston shop isn't going to confine his driving to his home town streets. We lost a kid last year due to a massive drug overdose at the Comcast Center in Mansfield. Connor Brandon was 19. Dominic Impelizzieri of Syracuse, NY was 27. 20 more were hospitalized, and 45 arrested. The drug culture is everywhere, and parents who use it in their homes in front of their kids – are in my view – criminals. You got something to say about that?
Darlene Hayes February 22, 2013 at 03:45 PM
Yes, & I hope you are as vocal in your own backyard. As an abutter to Holliston I don't want the shop either. I think these resources for those that need it prescribed gshould ge absorbed into the highly regulated with sop's in place for controlled substances in the pharmaceutical industry and existing retailers. Maybe not big box shops like CVS or Walgreens whose retail footprint expands where this has been legalized but specialty pharmicies like Hopkinton Drug who are licenced compounders. I don't see why one medicine would require its own store front, is the demand/need that high? I don't see stand alone Z-pack, Amoxiccillan, Zocor etc.shops which are among the top rx's prescribed in the US.
Iron Mike February 22, 2013 at 03:48 PM
>> vocal in [my] own backyard... Jeez Darlene,...if you haven't been on my blog,...please have the paramedics revive you...
Darlene Hayes February 22, 2013 at 05:54 PM
@Iron Mike, I have seen your Rabid Republican Blog...not what consider community service.
Bruce Gilkison February 24, 2013 at 10:56 PM
OMG.......Here we go "Rapid Republican Blog" let the man say what he wants whether you like it or not. I guess that no freedom of speech is part of the "liberal Agenda"
Julie Pontremoli February 25, 2013 at 05:00 PM
You must not have kids at the High School. There are so many drugs in Holliston it isn't funny. Sorry Michelle, you don't live in Mayberry any longer. Drugs are a huge issue in our town, and everyone knows about it, but doesn't say anything about it. The kids are going to get what they want, they do now. Up to parents to keep their kids drug-free and hope they make good choices.
Julie Pontremoli February 25, 2013 at 05:02 PM
You got that right and it makes me so angry that the parents in this town just turn their heads and look away!
Julie Pontremoli February 25, 2013 at 05:16 PM
Marty must live under a rock, if he thinks a Pot Shop is going to cause our kids to smoke the stuff. If the kids want drugs they go to the High School. I wish people in this town would open up their eyes and lower their noses....the drugs are already here people! Talk to you kids, over and over and over again!
Tinkerbell March 03, 2013 at 11:38 PM
I'm a US Citizen and a resident of Massachusetts. My right of free speech covers the globe." Simply UNTRUE MIKE UNTRUE (Though you can keep telling yourself anything you like) The Latino Bisexuals are here to stay and they are going to be asserting themselves into the mainstream in ways you never thought possible. Open your mind Mike even you might like to swing from the other side of plate

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